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Narcissus and Goldmund (Peter Owen Modern Classic), by Hermann Hesse

Also published as Death and the Lover, this new edition features a foreword from the musician and artist Graham Coxon

 Narcissus is a teacher at Mariabronn, a monastery in medieval Germany, and Goldmund his favorite pupil. While Narcissus remains detached from the world in prayer and meditation, Goldmund runs away from the monastery in pursuit of love. Thereafter he lives a picaresque wanderer’s life, his amatory adventures resulting in pain as well as ecstasy. His eventual reunion with Narcissus brings into focus the diversity between artist and thinker, Dionysian and Apollonian.

  • Sales Rank: #787160 in Books
  • Published on: 2006-07-01
  • Original language: English
  • Number of items: 1
  • Dimensions: 7.50" h x 5.00" w x .50" l, .54 pounds
  • Binding: Paperback
  • 254 pages

Review
"What makes this short book so limitlessly vast is the body-and-soul-shaking debate that runs through it, which it has the honesty and courage not to resolve: between the flesh and spirit, art and scientific or religious speculation, action and contemplation, between the wayfaring and the sedentary in us.”  —New York Times Book Review

“One of the most profound and magical novels published in our age.”  —Kirkus Reviews

About the Author
Hermann Hesse (1877–1962) was a poet, novelist, and painter whose best-known works include Siddhartha, Steppenwolf, and The Glass Bead Game, for which he was awarded the Nobel Prize in Literature.

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13 of 13 people found the following review helpful.
Very enjoyable alternative translation of my favorite Hesse book
By David
I have read most of the novels of Hesse, and Narcissis and Goldmund is my favorite, I had read the Molinaro translation 5-6 times and assumed it was an unquestionably good translation because of it's wide distribution and predominance in the English version. I have loved Narcissis and Goldmund, but have always noticed a certain tone in the dialogues that I considered somewhat condescending (though that may not quite be the right word.)

I read German, and recently began reading it in the native language (slowly, been a while since I used German) and found the tone of the writing was quite different than I experienced in the English reading.

I just found this translation by Geoffrey Dunlop (originally printed as Death and the Lover (transl. by Geoffrey Dunlop, 1932)). I am about half-way though the reading, and it has been a total joy, like reading it for the first time, and now the slightly annoying "tone" is not present it this translation. Curious, I went back and began a word-for-work comparison of the translations, and I find they are not even close enough to compare. The Molinaro actually follows the German text much more closely, Dunlop's approach is freer, he seems to read the passage (paragraphs) and then writes the equivalent in English as translations. It is much freer, he is not so constrainted to have a sentences match sentence per sentence, he even moves parts of a sentence to the next paragraph, but he organized the thought/descriptions in a much more convincing way.

It has been like hearing a famous symphony performed at a new tempo, or seeing art that has been restored.... I find it a much superior work when compared to the other translations... when it come to the impact and the self-consciousness of the writing style. I may read Molinaro's translation again, but this will be my favorite, and has deepened my love for this great masterpiece.

Why it has been so overlooked is a puzzlement to me. It at least equals Molinaro's and at least should be read as a complement.

0 of 0 people found the following review helpful.
Dunlopp or Vennewitz?
By Maxalbert
I have two translations of Narziss (Geoffrey Dunlopp, the first English translation; and Leila Vennewitz, much more current, there is a good review of her on ABC Bookworld). I have read the Dunlop translation twice. It would seem I should therefore give Vennewitz a go, but that's not the point. I read Hesse to read Hesse in the best way, whatever that may mean. I like immersing myself in his worlds, including Glass Bead Game, Steppenwolf and Siddhartha.

I am about to read Narziss again and am weighing up these two translations. I can’t say I remember it that well in order to compare how a new translation would favour. Part of me says Dunlopp is probably the best as he is of Hesse’s time, they would thus share a more common literary world. Some people state older translations can tend towards being stuffy, I don’t agree with this. Usually the great translations that have become classics in English stand the test of time, examples being the Maude translations of Tolstoy and Moncrieff’s and Kilmartin’s Proust. I recently read a ‘fresh, new’ (American) translation of Madame Bovary and I had to put it down, the style was off-putting and too overtly American for its content. There are some translations that are so poor they destroy any chance of the book being appreciated in other languages.

But the Leila Vennewitz translation of Narziss (or Narcissus!) is highly regarded. I have compared corresponding paragraphs, and was surprised at how much they differ. Taking the first paragraph, what Dunlopp treats as one sentence, Vennewitz divides into more sentences. The main words all seem to correspond, so the general meaning all seems to be retained. The flow and style are both good. How the two styles progress cumulatively I would have to read more to discover and if I have to do that it can’t differ that much.

Then I looked at the beginning of Chapter three, paragraph one, a sentence, Dunlopp translates: ‘To him all was thought, even love.’ Leila Vennewitz translates as ‘To him all was spirit, including love; . . .’ Well, here, I think there is quite a difference in meaning, this is exactly what I didn’t want to find and I would have to go to the original German to discover more.

I’m interested if anybody has a preference between these two translations?

Notes
With the Amazon reviews they often have reviews included for other editions translated by a separate translator. I noticed this because for one edition a reviewer described the cover and I thought well that corresponds to a separate edition with a different translator.
It’s worth googling (Owen Witesman + Narziss). He writes a good article on translation, On the Rocky Road to a Good Translation; there are some interesting responses, particularly one by David (though his name isn’t stated in the thread) who compares Dunlopp’s (superior) translation to Ursule Molinaro word for word.

3 of 3 people found the following review helpful.
This is an important book
By lmelton
Read this book when you're young and confronted with all the choices one has to make in order to complete a life. This might be a great translation...who knows? I don't speak German so I can't comment on the subtlety of word choice or the transfer of meaning from one language to another or the correct use of idiom. The major themes of Narcissus and Goldmund are put across in this work.

Read it when you're young. Once able to understand the broad concepts that Hesse describes, you can breeze through the difficult parts with know-it-all, youthful arrogance. Save the hard parts for later. In mid life, this book is a wonder of imagery and explanation for what happened during life's amazing journey. In later years, in this my last reading, I found that the book did not begin for me until I was well into the Plague years.

Do yourself a favor--because this is an important book, purchase a hard bound copy for your library.

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